Let’s Talk About Pivoting Your Career And Following Your Curiosity

Episode Transcript

Kelly: [00:00:00] Welcome back to Let’s Talk About Skills, Baby, the podcast where we discover what skills can help you live your best life. Now let’s talk about skills, baby.

Hey, everyone with me today is Lynz Floren. Lynz is the General Manager at Growth Network Podcasts. The same podcast media company that produces Let’s Talk About Skills, Baby. I’m excited to have Lynz join us on the show to discuss his career transition experience during the pandemic. Thank you Lynz for joining me today.

Lynz: Thanks so much for having me.

Kelly: Excited to finally do this. I feel like we get the opportunity to chat a lot. But we don’t always record those.

Lynz: Absolutely. Yeah. To do it with microphones at the ready.

Kelly: Yeah, exactly. Well, let’s start off. Let’s rewind the clock. We’re back in March, 2020. Where were you working? What were you doing?

Lynz: The [00:01:00] fall before that I had just transitioned into a new role at the Los Angeles County Bar Association. Basically I had moved from working in their events and multimedia recording into the marketing department, or to become the marketing department. and so that happened in September, October before the pandemic.

So when things hit, I was, you know, sort of grateful to not be in the office for a little minute. but it became very clear that. The organization I was with had sort of been, putting more and more on different people. And when someone left, they didn’t replace the role. They would often just keep that on somebody else and it sort of had cascaded.

And so, I think I was facing the awareness I’d been in the role for maybe six months, five months. At that time, I was just sort of becoming aware of how much perhaps was mounting on my shoulders and, what kind of hill I had to climb. This is a piece of my personality is I definitely was looking for silver linings and for an [00:02:00] organization that had been increasingly.

Irrelevant to its population. This change in circumstances shut down the court system and it stopped a lot of activities that had been assumed or taken for granted. And now the LA county bar association was positioned to disseminate information and be very valuable to people ostensively for the first time in a long time.

So. I loved that. I loved having that to play with, but wasn’t getting the resources I needed and everything was slowing down. You know, the organization needed to change. We didn’t want to change. There was a lot going on. It was an interesting time.

Kelly: Definitely. So how did you end up even getting into that industry and role? Because I mean, you and I have the pleasure of knowing Lindsay’s history. So I’m even curious to know how you ended up

working with them.

Lynz: so I, my earliest, I think passion is playing with sound and sound equipment and [00:03:00] eventually learning how to do video things as well. But there was a chunk of my career where I was doing. Audio visual for events and meetings, you know, as little as a tiny projector on a cart with a little screen for a classroom, or as big as, you know, thousands of people, multiple screens and cameras and video and all this kind of crazy stuff.

 I was a projector service person on Alcatraz for a little while. So once a month I had to go out and fix their projectors, make sure that they were working for the tourists videos that were playing. So you know, it’s an interesting intersection of being technically skilled, but then also you’re working with end clients and end users and having the ability to be friendly and.

To chat with him was good. So I always made the best of any gig and I made contacts and tried to make friends and, follow people on Twitter and like their Facebook posts, you know, I just sort of a connector by nature. And over time when I was working in downtown [00:04:00] LA I did a lot of gigs with the LA county bar and the people that recognized my attention to detail and would start to request me when they were coming back. And so when they had some changeover in their AB staff, they reached out to me. I started out at the bottom and I just inserted myself into things and paid attention and was, became very resourceful in an organization that often behaved like the DMV. Everyone was in their own little lanes being really slow.

I understood where that came from. Cause lawyers servicing lawyers is a lot, but I just had a different kind of energy. I come from a for profit environments and I’m, I moved pretty fast. So I just kind of, again, with the same kind of rigor, like met people. Worked with them.

And so it was not that strange when the AAV guy became the marketing guy

because of who I was and who I knew, you know, on paper, it was kind of weird.

But it made sense.

Kelly: Well, it makes sense to me. Obviously I get to sit here and talk with people [00:05:00] about skills all the time and everything that you just said was making me think of all the transferable skills. I can’t help it, but you know, when you talk about just that networking side of things, and you know, when you talk a lot about all of the.

Pieces that you’ve picked up along the way. Those transitions don’t seem so strange anymore.

Lynz: Right?

Kelly: Well, I also know you were working with their podcast, so, you know, was that something that started this spark on podcasting or was that

before.

Lynz: I think I had a spark before, you know, I mean, I, my brother and I used to make little radio shows on cassettes when we were kids. I think I’ve been playing with the equipment along time. And so the form comes pretty naturally to me, but I was looking for a way. You know, I saw a lot of podcasters who they had to fight their own battles to find an audience and to find that audience takes a lot of time.

And you’re just putting in a lot of hours before you’ve connected with anyone. So the [00:06:00] opportunity to do something for the LA county bar, where the audience already exists and I just get to practice my skills. And so I looked, you know, we had a changeover in we had a new executive director and I became, you know, I made myself as helpful as I could be.

And when the time came that we were coming up, how do we engage with people in new ways? I said, could we do a podcast? And he was just ready to let you know. Let me know when it’s ready so I can listen to it before.

you send it out, you know? And, and it just got the freedom. I ran with it. My coworker Melissa was, Skeptical, I would say at first, and then I made the first one and then she’s like, oh, I see this. Well, let’s do these episodes. Let’s call these people. And so we used our network and we went to law firms and law schools, and we ended up making a podcast called admitted for law students. And so it’s to help law students figure out because law school and being a lawyer, we have learned that road is not [00:07:00] pre-built. You go through law school and you understand the law, but the application of it may not have been discussed in nearly as much detail and the real world things on the work side of it are very different from what is taught. And that is why the first several years. Often, you know, new associates are put through like a bootcamp and these really hard things because they needed the foundational things of law school, but there’s an additional layer of applying it that they have not yet touched.

So we were putting together a podcast that helped people. It’s a lot like skills. Yeah. All these things relate that we’re helping people understand that the skills they were learning in law school were transferred. And here’s how you could leverage them to get more experience, et cetera, et cetera. We interviewed judges.

It was a pretty cool thing.

Kelly: That’s amazing. I love that this is about learning. So my other question is. What really led you to [00:08:00] making a change out of that role? Was it, you know, and especially choosing entrepreneurship, right? That’s like very different than choosing another job per se or a full-time role.

But was there something that happened during the pandemic? Was it things that were, you were thinking of for a long time?

Lynz: I think it was, I’ve always had a little entrepreneurial spirit in college. I started a record label with some friends. That was lots of lessons in that one. It was short-lived but really a great way to learn how to. Plan before you do things, for example. And I think I’ve been trying and looking for the right place to be entrepreneurial ever since, and I’ve been a lot more cautious.

And so leading up to this time as I’d started the podcast, LACMA, I then was starting to go to events in LA. There’s the outlier podcast festival I attended. And then let’s see what a podcast movement was [00:09:00] there. Try to go to, if there was a Saturday workshop held by the international documentary association, for example, or a one-time, Wondery held some, a Saturday thing.

I just went to those and I started taking really, really good notes because I have the technical thing, but I don’t know the industry. And to me, that’s the place where I could level.

And I ended up meeting some people that are now really, really close collaborators, and we talk all the time. And so I immersed myself in it. At the time I was kind of thinking, oh, I have this, I could start a whole network for the bar association. You know, there are 27 different practice area, sections, family, law, entertainment, law environmental the Each one of those could have their own direct connection with their people. And it could be this giant network of really close to it things. It could be the thing that brings this. [00:10:00] Challenged old organization back from the brink. And so I was actually going with the mind of trying to help build them.

But I, you know, I have my eye on two things at once. And so my networking and reaching out and meeting people. You know, the pandemic hits, we’re all looking for ways to make new content that’s relevant and all these things. And then of course, in doing all these things, I reconnected with an old friend who I went to high school with who, you know, who we obviously both know which is Gayatri, Agnew.

And she was talking about putting a podcast together and you had started your podcast and I hadn’t met you yet, but we were all thinking about how to make this work for us and how to connect people and allow for better projects to be built. And I think we just sort of yessing at each other and it led to starting growth network podcasts just a little over a year.

Kelly: I’m going to stop for a [00:11:00] second and just say like, yay. That’s a one-year anniversary, everybody listening. And

that’s a big milestone for a business. You know, it’s a, it’s a big deal.

So to go from that, To this, in that short period of time, but tell us for a second, because for a while, you know, this was sort of your side.

Lynz: Yeah. So when we started, I mean, we started talking, I think it was last August, but

you know, it really got going in September and I definitely have always had a. I have two jobs plus my life. And my first job is whatever’s making me money. And then as soon as it’s over, or maybe sometimes while it’s happening, I’m thinking about how do I spend my time on my second job, which for years has been music.

Music is a passion of mine. I’m a singer songwriter and I’ve been recording a long time. it’s one of those things. That’s a, that’s a crazy industry and, and all of that. And so it always was my job and then music on the side. And[00:12:00] while I still have that gear and I still have that lane and

I’m still working on music.

I’ve actually found a way to fold that into the podcasting because all of our clients get original music for their podcast. And it gives me a chance to get a little creative, put some things together and. You know, we’re not playing with the same stock sounds that everybody else has. And so but back to your question, which was for awhile, I definitely had to say clocking out of one job, putting on the hat for the other, you know, Pulling in money yet.

It’s not doing, you know, we’re just spending money, time and effort, and then trying to figure out what it looks like. And so that was September

through January, February. And and then I gave notice at my job and it’s just been sort of this full time. I’m actually trying to get to the point where the podcasts is primary.

And then I open up a Mac on that music lane. And so I’m [00:13:00] getting my, all of my self fulfilled here, but getting it off the ground is certainly taking a lot more time and attention than,

than most regular full-time jobs.

Kelly: Sure. you know, I’m thinking about people that are listening in to this episode and maybe wondering, you know, what would it take for me to go that route? If I so had something that I was passionate about, and of course we’re talking about skills, right? So it sounds like. There’s so many skills that you’ve picked up in all of the various things along the way.

Lynz: I think number one is like, it’s a resourcefulness. Like I have attempted to, I’ve shown up to mine every day for a lesson or a skill. am I strengthening something? Am I receiving something? Is there some wisdom to be had? And [00:14:00] so there’s a lot of reflection in all of these steps and I’m not entirely sure what made me.

sit at the back of a room when a giant you know, financial services conference is being presented I’m running sound and other guys running a projector, you know, computers, someone else’s running video. There are three of us and they’re playing video games in their phone and I’m taking notes, You know, at first I’d be like, guys, aren’t you taking notes and I’m not here to change them.

I’m just here to be me. You know? And so what I realized was I got made fun of, for that, you know, my coworkers would be like, Oh,

look at Lynn’s. He thinks he’s attending the conference or, you know, whatever it was. And I fine, you know, that’s I knew that there were lessons to be learned and that there was something in it.

And so I went in looking for it

and.

Kelly: It’s interesting. That was your first one. Not to stop your train of thought, but this whole time I have been thinking I’m like, I don’t think I’ve ever talked with anyone on the podcast that has been so. Determined to learn at [00:15:00] every step of the way. It’s something that I always hear from you in every situation.

Lynz: Yeah, no. And I if I could, if there was a magical elixir I could sell that made other people just sort of naturally, I don’t know. I love it. I’m not, I’m not I’m very happy about.

Kelly: to learn.

Lynz: Yeah. eagerness to learn.

And I think what I’ve had to learn in complement to that is that the opportunity of each learning thing, if it doesn’t come through, it’s okay too, that you get, you get the wisdom on balance.

It’s on, on the average you pick up stuff. But I think you have to be looking all the time. I think there’ve been, there were times in my life where I was like, there’s no lesson here. And it’s like, oh, I guess it’s patients. Oh. You know?

Kelly: That’s right?

Lynz: So Yeah resourcefulness

I think the focus is the next one, because you really need to know your why and know cause. You know, if you wake up [00:16:00] feeling bad, you can’t be swayed off too far. And so knowing what you’re doing it for being able to articulate what it is that, you know, and you may not be clear on the, what it is even yet, just knowing your why, knowing that you have a why knowing that you feel compelled and driven forward to do something. But the thing that I find that makes it the most doable is turning anything you can into a routine. So I’ll give you an example of one that I started. Oh gosh, 2010. I was. Committed to becoming a bigger, better songwriter. And I decided you need to write more lyrics to get better. And that’s true. And so I started a notes app in my phone and have 11 years of notes in any time. I think of anything that is a song lyric, a song title.

I like making a band names. So I have all like an 11 year long list of band names. [00:17:00] I just turn that into, okay. Get it out of my head as quickly as possible. Get out of my head as quickly as possible. There will come a time when I need to access that information. And I know where it is, but I don’t need to hold it all the time.

And so if you want to be thinking about building a company or building a media brand or anything. You know, the ideating phase happens throughout life. And so to be able to get into the routine of putting your ideas somewhere so that they’re all in that place, when you need to really get going, I think has been the most helpful.

Kelly: That’s a really good one. And I feel like the creativity, you just talked about. That’s what I’m hearing. And the other thing would be sort of like the organizing around that because, you know, often I know you and I have talked about this before and I would hold up my journal if I realized anyone could see us right now, but that was sort of the one thing we had just talked about.

And I’ve been walking around with this journal. ’cause sometimes, you know, if you are creative, the thing is we lose that. And it sounds like over time, you’ve just like [00:18:00] amassed this amazing resource because you’ve taken the time to channel that creativity and record that creativity, which is like another step that we don’t often think of when we’re being creative.

Lynz: Right. In fact, it’s actually really hard to think in system when you’re creative.

to allow it to have a, so this is, I try to think about the system when I’m actually struggling with creativity so that when the creativity comes, , I know how to channel the stuff. Cause in the moment you’re like book, you’re lucky if you write it down, you know what I mean?

When you’re really ideating, it’s like, it could just as easily disappear into the ether,

Kelly: Completely that ha I mean, I don’t, everyone has their various moments when they’re being creative. I’m sure mine often happen at for whatever reason at 3m. If I don’t have that book there and write it down, then it’s gone.

Lynz: absolutely.

Kelly: Well, those are some really valuable skills for anyone that is considering, making this transition, I would say [00:19:00] I’m trying to think of what else might be helpful in terms of, you know, especially people in this moment, it sounds like you may have already had. These years of thinking and knowing that at some point entrepreneurship was, you know, your path, right.

And there’s probably a lot under the layers that we’re exploring in this particular season. And I wonder if there’s any out, anything out of what you’ve learned that may be helpful to others that are thinking this way too, because this is, you know, sometimes all of that can be overwhelmed.

Lynz: Yes. I would say the number one thing that helped me actually pushed through from wanting something like this, to doing something like this was investing in myself. there was a brief part of my journey where I thought I was going to be doing one-on-one coaching as my main thing. And I went to coactive training Institute.

CTI. I did their their coaches training, thinking that that [00:20:00] was the direction I was going to go. And the model they have is amazing. I really, really like it. And it, the way it actually impacted my life was different in that I instead internalize these new models for how to be, and then reinserted them into my projects and into my work.

And so now I’m being more coach like in my day to day. Instead of

you know, being bossy or being cautious or something, there’s, there’s, there’s like a boldness to it. and it’s in service of others. There’s a lot of, you know, we rise together

that real collaborative energy there. So That’s the way I invested in myself.

I’m not sure it matters which way you invest in yourself. I think you know, I’ve been going to therapy almost every week for seven years that had to help, got to say You know, I’ve been attending workshops, really intending to learn, there’s the work that I was doing in audio visual, where I would just try to make a work day, a learning opportunity, but [00:21:00] then there’s the, oh, I invested in a program where I’m, I’m just getting to go in and do the whole thing.

And you meet a bunch of new people. You suddenly have a larger network. Those sorts of things. So. Anytime you can invest in yourself, you know, not every program is great. But you know, doing some kind of thing where you’re in a group setting, working some kind of material that has some substance to it, with people for your own growth, that’s the stuff, you know, and I think it sometimes feels like a sideways trip, it certainly feels like I did not go directly to here.

But I came here with more tools than I would have had if I had come directly. it took a little longer than I thought, and I think that’s pretty common not to make anyone feel disheartened, but it’s also, here’s another thing I learned, which is sometimes your journey started before you became aware of it.

And you’re actually further along than you realize.

Kelly: I think that’s such great advice and the thing too about [00:22:00] going and, you know, working on yourself sometimes too, when, you know, some people might realize they’re unhappy, but they don’t know what it is that sets them on fire. And I feel like just going and leveling up on something that maybe you just even love, you know, just, it doesn’t have to be anything that’s related to work.

Right. Maybe I know you and I have talked about this for, I was like, man, I really wish I took singing lessons. Right. I mean, it’s just something, but doing something like that, stepping outside of your comfort zone, I feel like can open up other things that you might not have even thought about and you can find it,

Lynz: no, I think I’ve had a lot of feedback from friends who have been like, oh, of course, podcasting. That makes sense. You know, it just, what the field hadn’t really come together. When I was doing a lot of my searching, you know, it hadn’t quite become a thing in quite the same way. and I heard, and I can’t remember who said this, but something that really, really inspired me was.

You’re not following your passion because you don’t know what [00:23:00] you don’t know if you knew what it was. You’d be following it, I think is what’s true for most people or if they knew how to follow it, they would. you’re actually following your curiosity to find your passion. So if you’re curious about scuba diving, It has nothing to do with your career, but it like intrigues you and you research it for fun on the internet.

When you’re alone, then you need to do that. You need to go find your way

into it and see what it has to do. And maybe you become a scuba instructor, or maybe you just become somebody who has a passion that allows you to talk to people at a party really easily about scuba and everyone, you know, and it’s like eases your social anxiety to have that nice thing to talk about.

There’s just so many ways we can use these hobbies or interests if we’re, all you know, lucky enough to live a really long life. What we will see is that a thing that expressed itself in our teenage years re [00:24:00] surfaced in our twenties, in our thirties and our forties, until it was treated with the dignity it deserved and given a spot in our lives.

And then sometimes it’s the full. You know, and so I’ve always been into music and I didn’t know how I was going to make it part of my career, but I knew that if I was able to write music for this podcast, for the bar association, that my music then existed in the public space. It was out there to be heard in a way that when I make my own songs, no one can.

Right. There’s an influence of corporate visibility or something. Right. It’s visible through this cultural thing. and so I just sort of follow that thread, you know, how do I get to make the things I care about more in alignment or in synergy? How do I get to bring this thing I like doing into This thing I don’t like doing

Kelly: So I think you’ve just given this amazing soundbite, which is a, I’m probably going to misquote you in some way, but it [00:25:00] was follow your curiosity.

It leads to passion, and that is amazing. And a lot of what else you talked about today was that there is no one way or one path you’ve just ha in your experience, you’ve just taken those little moments of curiosity and sort of built up that knowledge and used it in different ways. And when I say knowledge, what I’m really talking about is like this huge bundle of amazing skills that you’ve gained over just.

Checking out different things, when you look back on that, I think you’re right. You find connection points that you never even knew existed. And other people around you probably may even know

Lynz: well, they’ve probably seen, they probably noticed way before you did,

and they’re often impossible to plan. Like you can’t have known that this and [00:26:00] this would, have come together. You know, I mean, when I was seven and making audio. radio shows with my brother. There was no planning in that we were following our natural curiosity, you know?

And then, you know, when I got into electronic music in college and I worked in the studio there, it’s like, I’m just following my curiosity. And then, you know, each thing is that. And I mean up until like two, three years ago, if you would talk to me, you could feel my ankle. You could feel the anx that I had not found my direction yet, even though it’s not that different, it’s only been a couple of years since it’s changed.

And the backstory is what made me, who I am. I just couldn’t see it. And I hadn’t made the connections yet. And so I think feeling lost is, is unfortunately natural part of the process. And I think that fighting through that lost feeling. Is is [00:27:00] hard, but we have to test, we have to go through to be in charge of our own lives a little bit.

Kelly: yeah, I love that. You just call that out because. It is, it can be hard. And I know I’m someone that struggles with that.

And I also want to point out that. Not everyone listening may be thinking of this from a personal standpoint. Right. But if you’re someone who employs people, definitely keeping and, you know, listen in because there are a lot of your employees that are thinking this way. And if you don’t understand, where their thoughts are and how, you know, they can channel that energy, maybe in other ways within your organization.

You know that they’re going to move on and this is going to make huge effects over the next few years on how and how that will look,

Lynz: Yeah. I mean, I think. What we’re seeing is a lot of people who are not accepting the status quo when it comes to [00:28:00] workplace practices, you know, and that’s Definitely something I thought against,

but I was raised with parents, you know, and an ethos. Yeah.

My parents were hippies. So maybe I got a little bit more of a lenient thing, but you know, it was still like, you have to show up it’s their workplace and you’re, you’re kind of checking yourself at the door for a little while. And and that’s not how people want to work anymore and it’s not how I want to work.

 but I’m certainly capable of. Assimilating into any work situation, because I always felt like that was necessary.

Kelly: You know, this leads me to think of another question though, because now as a business owner, how are you thinking about the culture of growth network podcasts? Because we’ve obviously talked about this at length, and I know, I mean, you guys, I’ve learned so much from lens about this and like bring it on because this is going to help so [00:29:00] many, not only entrepreneurs, but large organizations that are trying to think of.

Lynz: Yeah. I mean, we’re really, really trying to put a lot of our energy into culture. And I would say in some ways we are choosing culture overgrowth and that’s a, that’s a gamble, you know, I think we can always look back on this moment and see how well we did it, but I think. What we’ve done is prioritize our human to human connection at the beginning of.

every call.

And checking in trying to discuss things. We do not want anyone just sitting on a rock in their stomach. I don’t want that. I don’t want it for the people I work with. And often you can have a two minute discussion and it’s gone. so we’re trying really hard to be. Emotionally intelligent with each other.

We’re an entirely virtual company. And so that does present some challenges, you know seri our awesome producer is in New York and I’m in LA. And so [00:30:00] are, we have to make some choices about how we’re going to communicate and how we’re going to get stuff done. I think it comes down to purpose and intention.

You know, a lot of people don’t really care about mission statements or vision statements. And I think they’re very, very, very important and Going through the process of coming up with something you think is good enough and then realizing it isn’t and then having to fix it. And then having th this is you’re having a discussion with yourself about your values.

And so I think the further you can get in the process of having a discussion with yourself before you begin to include other people, the more you’re going to have prepared, the more it’s going to make sense, the more it’s going to be. And the more of it’s out of your head onto a piece of paper, and that allows people to lock onto what you’re doing.

So we took a little detour as we were setting up the company to get really, really clear on our brand values and our whole deal, because. We aren’t in the same room [00:31:00] and we can’t afford to be on different tracks. And so I would say that we’ve really developed kind of a cool, cohesive mind about it now, you know, and sometimes I’ll come up with an idea I think is really great and they’ll get shut down by them because it’s not quite in line with our values.

And as frustrated as I am in the moment we dodged a bullet, so that, that’s sort of some of my thoughts on that. I think I also our business manager, Maura, I have to shout her out because she’s extremely values driven and very, very thorough about finding business resources that match her values and finding ways to live our truth as a company.

And

I think I would have given up if it weren’t for her. So it’s been having everybody on the same page about that.

Kelly: No, I totally agree. And Maura is awesome. You know, the things I was thinking about as we are, both of us small business owners, right. It’s I was thinking about how [00:32:00] to apply this concept. If you were trying to change the direction of a larger organization

Lynz: you know I think I’ve seen again and again, that if it’s not, if the top person is not. 100% involved in a hundred percent there. And maybe also the board

Kelly: Yeah,

Lynz: that if you don’t have gung ho participation, it’s just another corporate initiative.

I started to see that organizations that talk about coaching or use coaching, or have coaches on their staff or those sorts of things. There’s a little bit of a signpost to me that that organization is something I’m probably, I might be in alignment with. You know, there are other ways to see that, but that has, I think

Kelly: Well, you know, you brought like the interesting thing though, too, for me, is that when you, when you brought up Maura and her work as well, and just finding aligned resources, right? I mean, I find that not only are we [00:33:00] thinking of this with ourselves and how we spend our days at work, right. But we’re also thinking about it in our buying patterns.

Lynz: Yeah.

I think there’s definitely a move towards, you know, mission aligned, everything, you know, I think people want to fully support things if they can. but I also, you know, it kind of points me to things like, is it glass door? No, what’s the site where you. Right.

Reviews of your company you worked for is that, which last door, you know, and so you think about sites like these that are kind of allowing people to vent and share their opinion. And the visibility of of companies that are, rampantly, overrunning their employees versus ones that early, trying to switch things I could really see there being a, you know, a metric score that becomes popular or some kind of thing that becomes a way of signifying.

How far have they gone down this [00:34:00] direction? Can we trust their behavior going forward?

Kelly: there has been some talk about metrics like these being required. So we will see Yeah. Well, Lynn’s thank you so much because I ha well, thank you, first of all, because I feel like I learned from you all the time and now we get to experience this moment where others get to learn from you, which I love.

But I also think that there’s so much more so, you know, I want everyone to know. How to keep up with everything. You’re doing the stuff with growth network podcasts. Where do you like to hang out on social?

Lynz: Absolutely. I’m on LinkedIn a lot. I think that’s a place. To me it is the one environment where everyone who’s on it has agreed that they’re there to better themselves. And so it has a unique, I think, flavor. Sure. Some of it can be spammy, but there’s something unique about LinkedIn. I spend a lot of time on there.

Connect with me, follow me there. You know, growth network [00:35:00] podcasts is on all the social?

things. Definitely connect with us on Twitter and LinkedIn and all these places. We’re just dabbling now with tech talk. So feel free to come and be one of the first ones to follow us there.

And if you’re interested in me and my story, I’m at Lynn’s Floren on Instagram Lynn’s foreign music on Facebook and also I’ve got to tick tock as well, but you know, if you come find me anywhere, I’m sure there’ll be links to all the other things. And come say hi.

Kelly: Awesome. Thank you again, Linz and thank you for. listening. You’ve been listening to let’s talk about skills, baby, a growth network Podcasts production. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to subscribe to the podcast and share it with your community